FleaBay short heads up 6 hours 32A and 802G

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Originally Posted by bfish

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I think that's a safe conclusion. The "logic" we derive from progressive changes to the loose drivers with model numbers doesn't seem to apply equally to part-numbered OEM drivers Altec installed in factory made systems. From the references, it appears the only common denominator was the intended use (system to be installed in).

That said, the type of rear cover on a HF driver meant little or nothing on any model, I don't think any numbers were changed just because of the cover used (or even lack of one entirely when loading caps were employed). To add to the confusion when looking at the drivers left today, many that Altec re-diaphramed (after the new-style rear caps were in use) came back with a new-style rear cap as part of the terminal conversion kit.

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Thanks for that Brad !

Do you have any idea what changes were made to the original models that would define the 806-8B and/or the 802-8E ??? ( in 10 years of eBay viewing, I've never seen either offered up for auction ) .

cheers <> Earl

You're welcome Earl. Since I've seen no positive reference (or even either of those drivers) I can only guess. In the case of the 806-8A/B, I'd consider a parallel to the 808-8A/B, circumferential plugs/Tangerines. For the 802-8E, no idea, since the literature suggests Tangerines were "new" to the 802-8G.

FWIW, I don't put a lot of stock in the drivers I see today being a fault-free reference to historical production. Seems everyone wants to believe their drivers are exactly as they were new. but time, memory, and provenance being what they are, much of that is wishful thinking. ;)

Given the components listed (and those that weren't) I wonder if the seller was EWaving his Altecs? If so, the $360 sale left him with some extra spend-togs (and likely a better system).

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Originally Posted by Brad

Given the components listed (and those that weren't) I wonder if the seller was EWaving his Altecs? If so, the $360 sale left him with some extra spend-togs (and likely a better system).

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FWIW, I thought that whole lot went for a pretty cheap price ( eWaveable or not ) .

eWaving ; ( have you ) ???

Generally, when using larger woofers, I prefer lower crossover points than what eWave embraces . Also, I prefer the sound of aluminum diaphragms over titanium or mylar ( though these stated preferences are restricted to the "near-field") .

Professionally, I do use JBLs waveguides driven by JBLs' minuscule Vertec drivers ( similar to a 291 in the top-end response ) . None of this stuff classifies as "eWave" from the affordability POV .

An Altec 288-8K is my reference standard for how this mid-size format should sound . That's why it's here at home .:)

I think the round caps are just an earlier version and have more to do with when they were manufactured and was just a change in a style of production when they went to the flat back.When Altec went to the flat back caps,late in the seventies or early eighties it was when they switched to the Tangerines as well.Now I have seen 806-8A's with the round cap that have metal phase plugs that I have, and I've seen the flat back 806-8A's with Tangerines.I'm pretty sure it was just a change in style and to announce or differentiate the tangerines with the flat back from the metal phase plugs w/round caps,around the same time the 802-8G's came out.

Now an interesting thing with my 19's is they have original 802G's/23744's with the round back cap,that just say Altec on the back 33952.Soon after they changed the caps.Here is a picture.The build date on mine are 2/77

http://www.hostboard.com/forums/hbmc...2011/01/17.jpg

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Originally Posted by Earl K

Generally, when using larger woofers, I prefer lower crossover points than what eWave embraces . Also, I prefer the sound of aluminum diaphragms over titanium or mylar ( though these stated preferences are restricted to the "near-field") .

Professionally, I do use JBLs waveguides driven by JBLs' minuscule Vertec drivers ( similar to a 291 in the top-end response ) . None of this stuff classifies as "eWave" from the affordability POV .

An Altec 288-8K is my reference standard for how this mid-size format should sound . That's why it's here at home .:)

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& Yes I agree with you on all points Earl, much prefer the aluminum over any titanium they just sound better IMHO.

I don't see what is so interesting about all these Ewaves. :confused: I mean what is so unique about it.It has all been done before hasn't it?? And as far as being economy they all have to look like well let's just say not good, because to make them have any kind of good looking aesthetics you have to put money into a finish albeit veneer,etc... And that kind of takes the economy right out of it.Most of the Ewaves I have seen are of the shoe box size variety.I just don't like the sound of small speakers they just don't fill a room with sound well enough IMO.They don't fool your ears well at all.Unless room is extremely small (closet). :D A $20 speaker just isn't that appealing, to much emphasis on economy,the priority should be on sound quality regardless of price, now that's a more appealing speaker to me.One that you can't improve upon.Tough Task but worth the effort. ;)

Thanks for posting the Literature Brad ! :2thumbsup:


Addendum: I think the waveguides themselves work well. I just don't like the small bookshelf speakers was the point I was getting at, not enough room filling sound IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Earl K

eWaving ; ( have you ) ???

Generally, when using larger woofers, I prefer lower crossover points than what eWave embraces ...
...An Altec 288-8K is my reference standard for how this mid-size format should sound . That's why it's here at home .:)

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Technically, no, at least not by the "model". I've played with some B&C ME90s on my 299s...

B&C SPEAKERS

...with promising results, but like you, I want to go much lower than the 1050/4th order I was able to do stock. There was enough promise though that when space permits, I intend to try a simple conical extension (pseudo PV quadratic throat) to get a lower cutoff.

Here's an oddity...serials are 12 apart...check the frams...

Of course one could have been changed....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Altec-802-8D-Hig...item35af0ce62e

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Of course one could have been changed....

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That'd be my guess since one phragm has the new style(post 1983) push connectors and lead in conductors.

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Originally Posted by Earl K

John , your photo is quite interesting .
Therefore , I need to ask; what was the actual determining factor ( commonality ) for inking that 23746 stamp onto a driver ?

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Hey Earl, I think the commonality of the inking is,if they were mounted inside a cabinet they got ink stamps if they were visible like on top of an A-7 they got stickers/labels

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Originally Posted by Earl K

Do you have any idea what changes were made to the original models that would define the 806-8B and/or the 802-8E ??? ( in 10 years of eBay viewing, I've never seen either offered up for auction ) .

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I would hazard to guess "Not Much" difference could have been diaphragms,or something minimal.. I have seen both on eBay.But like you had said they are quite rare.Not many produced.

AFAIK they were only in production for a very short time,only months I think.They were both discontinued at or around the same time as the launch of the new Tangerine 802-8G's

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Originally Posted by bowtie427ss

That'd be my guess since one phragm has the new style(post 1983) push connectors and lead in conductors.

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The mounting ring even looks odd. smaller or something :(